An SEO Question regarding H1 tags

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An SEO Question regarding H1 tags

Service: Hoop.la

Hey Hoop.

Almost every SEO article says that bots love content with <H1> tags and don't lend as much weight to H2,3,4.

Thing is.... In Hoop's scheme of things, Page Titles get the "H1 page title" designation. Whereas, the more specific topic headlines are getting the H4 treatment.

From a layout/hierarchy perspective, it makes sense to make Page Titles H1 (Biggest) and sub topics "not as big." But it's not very SEO because topic titles are much more descriptive than page titles, and we want to keep page titles from being too wordy.

Could you code some <h1> "Search Bot Love" on the Topic Titles? and give the Page Titles something else?  Or is there some way for us to jimmy this some css without messing up the logic of headline tags?

 

 

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Actually, although the topic subjects are H4 on the topic list page, they are H1 on the actual topic page. I don't know if a shift on the topic list page is going to move the needle or not.

You could, on a page by page basis, use Custom CSS to change the designation of any piece of text. So you could go to your topic list page and force those to be H1, but I think it will end up looking super weird.

Have you noodled with that at all?

I did think about "how" to noodle it before I posted my question to you, and like you, came to the conclusion that it would get weird pretty quick!

I even thought maybe I could assign a smaller font size to H1 and then use that tag all over the place   ...but the unintended consequences + the effect it would have on previous posts using that tag made me  

One bot-love thought would be for Hoop to make H3,4,5,6 the only headline options available to admins/users (and still let us determine their relative font size), and remove H1,2 from the public interface --keeping them HoopAdmin controlled tags: H1 for Topics and H2 for the PageTitle.

SEOH1Topics forever.

(PS... yes, I'd love to have an H5 or H6 tag. I'd make it "fineprint.")

 

As far as I am concerned, the search engine crawlers put more stress on H1 tags than H2, H3, and so on. Therefore, you might rank higher for the keyword phrase you  included in H1 tag.

Also, you might want to check how SEO-friendly your website is with on-page optimization tools like ScanBacklinks

Thanks Alan. We've been using a number of tools to check our site's SEO. 

Things we have 'discovered' about SEO and our Hoop site: 

(1) Google often "ignores" text in our Site Header (a field provided in hoopla site admin) that describes our site.  Instead, Google search results were picking up text from our 1st "block" of content on the Homepage --whatever that text happened to be, and using that text to describe our site. We have since made darn sure that our 1st Block on the Homepage is descriptive and keyword laden.

(2) We made sure we included the Description Meta Tag and a Title Tag in the Site Header field, as Google search bots were indeed paying attention to those. Those two things are easily overlooked if you're coming from some other site building platform which makes filling in those tags part of the initial start-up/sign-up process, or admin interface. Hoop does not. 

(3) Make your TOPIC titles descriptive (keyword them). They are tagged h1, btw.

Rosemary O'Neill posted:

Actually, although the topic subjects are H4 on the topic list page, they are H1 on the actual topic page. I don't know if a shift on the topic list page is going to move the needle or not.

You could, on a page by page basis, use Custom CSS to change the designation of any piece of text. So you could go to your topic list page and force those to be H1, but I think it will end up looking super weird.

Have you noodled with that at all?

@Rosemary O'Neill

Following up on your comment again... 

 

As I drill down through our Hoop Powered pages, you can see that what appears to be the page title is variously coded H1 to H2, then back to H1.

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There is also no way to customize the HEADER for that specific topic.  According to my understanding of SEO, the page's specific content should be reflected in the page header's meta description and <Title> ...but as far as I can tell, we can only customize a general header for the entire site.  Am I missing something??    

If I were changing this, I would add a title and meta description option field in the Forum Configuration module.

 

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